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May 25, 2005

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Jack

Speaking of thorough background checks that Legalmatch and Casepost claim to do, I know of one lawyer with Casepost in Oregon who has been plublicly deciplined twice including a short suspension!

DwayneIndividual

http://sev.prnewswire.com/multimedia-online-internet/20060607/SFW11007062006-1.html

For those 1 or 2 attorneys who know who the Federal Trade Commission is, above I provided the link to what they think is best for the consumer.

For the rest of the legal profession. You are vendors of a service. Nothing more. Whatever helps the mass consumer make a better choice, regardless of how you are affected as the merchant, is seen as a good thing in our society. By being quite against this change, even after it is endorsed by state bars and the FTC, all you are saying to your future clients is, "I am still god in this profession and screw you for looking for optional ways of finding us."

To those attorneys who do not like getting called by salespeople: tough!
You are a publicly advertised business (although most are not very professional) vending a service like a masseuse or a call girl, whoever can pay that comes through the door. Am I wrong? If you are against B2B Telemarketing, fine, but don't hate a company based solely off of their use that marketing tactic.

Lastly, using LegalMatch, CasePost, LegalFish or any of the other findanattorneyquick services, is approved by the government and WILL NOT GET YOU DISBARRED. Behaving like you are all knowing will.

Truth

LegalMatch's Biggest competition is CasePost.com

On their About Us page here:
http://www.casepost.com/ourteam.php

ADVISORY BOARD

Matt Homann, President of Lex Think and author of the [Non] Billable Hour Blog

Now why would someone sitting on the advisory board of a company that is anti LegalMatch allow a complaint forum of undocumented anecdotes about LegalMatch to remain high in the organic search engine results?

Do you get paid by CasePost Matt? If so, souldn't you list that in your credentials when you talk about LegalMatch? I think it conflicts you out of hosting this discussion, but I am not a lawyer and not therefore not slimy enough to even consider doing what you are doing.

Oh, by the way, here is what Consumer Reports (a source that does not think itself lord over a service industry the way attorneys do) says about LegalMatch:
http://www.consumerwebwatch.org/dynamic/web-credibility-investigation-law-and-disorder.cfm
One alternative approach lets consumers look before they leap. LegalMatch.com of San Francisco and CasePost.com of Irvine, CA, both match clients to lawyers, who then bid to take a case. Clients can review the proposals – all from attorneys who meet certain standards – and decide which, if any, they want to hire.

The approach has been controversial in the legal profession because it competes with non-profit referral services certified by the national and state bar associations. In June, the Utah State Bar set off a national debate when it decided to replace its referral service with LegalMatch.com. "We did due diligence, and it was very impressive," says Toby Brown, a Utah Bar spokesman. "It may be a leap of faith."

Consumers should also perform as much due diligence as possible before hiring a lawyer found online. Find out if disbarred lawyers have been weeded from online listings and whether the site requires attorneys to meet certain education or professional standards to be listed.


So pick a side Matt. Either online attorney/client matching or against. You are obviously pro, based off how this comment began. At least explain you work for LegalMatch’s competition.
Please stop the mudslinging festival against your personal interests and start considering how undermining the legal profession sounds when a non lawyer stumbles onto Blawgs.

joni

I used legalmatch for a period of time. They talked me into signing a multi-year contract at a very steep cost. They promised that I would get business from using their service; however, I didn't get any business from legalmatch and so I ended up wasting my money. The cost almost put me out of business. When I asked them for a refund -- due to their not living up to their bargain -- they simply stopped taking my calls. I sent them a demand letter -- which they didn't answer.

Looking into it further, they included an arbitration provision in their agreement which would have requried me to travel to San Francisco and cost me several thousand dollars to dispute. I opted not to fight them, but to just pay off the large debt (financed through their company at 10% interest).

It is unfortunate that con-artists like legalmatch are out there.

joni

I used legalmatch for a period of time. They talked me into signing a multi-year contract at a very steep cost. They promised that I would get business from using their service; however, I didn't get any business from legalmatch and so I ended up wasting my money. The cost almost put me out of business. When I asked them for a refund -- due to their not living up to their bargain -- they simply stopped taking my calls. I sent them a demand letter -- which they didn't answer.

Looking into it further, they included an arbitration provision in their agreement which would have requried me to travel to San Francisco and cost me several thousand dollars to dispute. I opted not to fight them, but to just pay off the large debt (financed through their company at 10% interest).

It is unfortunate that con-artists like legalmatch are out there.

Lisa

I agree. It is one thing to risk losing your law license by using LegalMatch.com, but it is quite another to support a company with such a poor track record.

I used to get calls from them, and they would spend the time trying to size me up. To see how much they could charge me. After telling them that I found this site and others that outline the numerous complaints and unethical practices, they kept trying to just reduce the price. It was as if they thought that their unethical past could be overcome by providing a reduced price (which was still really steep -- much much more than anything I would have paid -- even for a company with a good track record). After a while their calls just seemed humorous to me. I guess they sensed that they were not going to take my money, so they stopped calling. I could use a laugh; I kind of wish they would call back.

Lisa

I agree. It is one thing to risk losing your law license by using LegalMatch.com, but it is quite another to support a company with such a poor track record.

I used to get calls from them, and they would spend the time trying to size me up. To see how much they could charge me. After telling them that I found this site and others that outline the numerous complaints and unethical practices, they kept trying to just reduce the price. It was as if they thought that their unethical past could be overcome by providing a reduced price (which was still really steep -- much much more than anything I would have paid -- even for a company with a good track record). After a while their calls just seemed humorous to me. I guess they sensed that they were not going to take my money, so they stopped calling. I could use a laugh; I kind of wish they would call back.

Darrell

Research before use. Tons of materials in archives. Using them in this
state, or a similar service, will result in disciplinary proceedings.

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Law Office of Darrell G. Stewart, PLLC
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San Antonio, Texas 78217
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And somehow legalmatch.com is still ripping people off, blatantly violating state lawyer referral service statutes, and getting rich off of poeople in the meantime.

Kreig Mitchell

I have decided to add a follow-up post to update everyone on my experience with LegalMatch since my prior post. I think that it is important for me to write this post so that others who are contemplating working with LegalMatch get a feel for LegalMatch.

As you can read from my prior post, I had some questions about LegalMatch's services. Do I think LegalMatch could have initially done a better job in setting expectations? Yes. However, I have to say that they have really gone out of their way to try to remedy the deficiencies. The marketing management staff has been really responsive. They reformulated how the cases were assigned to me (how cases are listed, key words, and other misc. computer nerd stuff) and it now looks like LegalMatch is going to work out for me. Time will be the best test, so perhaps I will write to give you another update in a few months.

I am not one to write an endorsement for any company (and I am not doing that
here); however, I do think that LegalMatch's response says a lot about their
company. They may not be perfect, but at least they are willing to work with
their attorneys. I can't say that many companies would do that these days.

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